Tuesday, January 04, 2005

Skiers and Non-Skiers, can they mix ?

There is no doubt about it. A dedicated Ski break (complete with war stories and intensive apres-ski) is best when everybody is as close to the same mind as is possible.
But what to do when partners, close friends, relatives etc. want to be on holiday with you at the same time and definitely not ski ? NB I am not talking about a group with nervous or beginner skiers, they are a different issue, I mean confirmed non-skiers (perhaps through health or age or just a different sense of fun and adventure ! ).

Is it worth ducking the issue and possibly even put off skiing for a year or two? Run separate holidays for a while ? Or is it worth exploring the possible compromises ?


  • If you are amongst the skiers, will it spoil your evenings if there are people around you who might want to talk about things other than skiing ?
  • What will the non-skiers do during the day ? Other specialist activity, Spas and Pampering , Snow excursions, Shopping, History & Culture tourism ?

It all could get expensive and less than satisfying overall, but need it be that awkward ?

Not if thought through properly.

Possibly this is where European Skiing can really excel. For a start distances can be small. Many Mountains have cities and towns around them that have a life outside of skiing. Many have Arts, Music, History or shopping possibilities that would outpace any 'ski' stay anyway. Try Turkey or the Sierra Granada (the very south of spain) and you can even add beaches to the possible mix.

'Fine if you have an unlimited budget and a helicopter' you might say, after all no one locality can be snow-sure, offer good skiing and also good dry-feet tourism can it ? Well snow-sure is becoming more of a variable feast with our 'warming environment' and even snow machines won't create something from nothing, but....

The Pyrenees (French and Spanish, Catalan and Basque) are one area where it can all come together, and are good value. See http://www.lespyrenees.net/html/en/rep_sport_hiver/acchiver.asp

and www.GoodViews.co.uk (my own base in the area)


Austria has distinct attractions. Even the French Alps have spots such as Chamonix with something for nearly everyone.

'But all that travelling to the skiing' and 'no skiing back to the doorway' I can hear the activists say. And indeed it is true that even a 'classic' resort like Chamonix, or an off-resort Pyreneean town, will involve some travelling to the slopes. Perhaps an hour ? Is that extreme ?But once you get back home in the evening there will be restaurants with better food and prices than ski resorts; there may be Thermal Spas, concerts, even sports matches that don't involve snow (Rugby, Football..) . Not to mention your friends and loved ones to share an evening with.

But where are the best areas to make this all worthwhile and economical for everyone. And which is best a catered chalet, a hotel or self-catering (explore & eat-out) or self catering (eat -in & rest) ?

This page is only an introduction. Hopefully we will get some constructive input, and then I will add more from my experiences and researches over many years.





6 Comments:

Blogger JohnO said...

More about eurpean destinations later. Any contributions from america ?
John

1:02 pm  
Blogger JohnO said...

Those actively searching may also find info on

rec.skiing.resorts.europe

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi JohnO, sometimes I wish that life was so simple and that when looking for skiing holidays I actually did find exactly that. Having said that although your Skiers and Non-Skiers, can they mix ? was really not quite what I was looking for it somehow I found that it grabbed my attention and I surprised myself by reading it with interest. So all said and done I'm glad that I did stop by your blog. Keep Blogging!

4:31 pm  
Blogger JohnO said...

Given that this has been spammed by somebody selling stocks, and by somebody who says insurance cannot be lived without, I wonder if brrreeeport, will add any more noise ?
Having said that I strongly belive that anybody going skiing should have insurance.
And, brrreeeport, a lot of the audience will be skiing now, so lets hope that we get more comments when people return.

As far as I can see the Alps are patchy at the moment and the pyrenees have snow (but occasional rain). Source:
http://www.ifyouski.com/Snow/home/
and
www.meteo.fr

The family staying in my place, www.goodviews.co.uk
say that the Andorran resorts are only an hour and a half away . I am amazed, I always thought them further away. Another comment just seen is
'If you like snowparks Les Angles is cool . One of the best snowpark is Porté Puymorens.'
both nearby.

Meanwhil have a good time in the snow and perhaps we can get back on topic soon.

brrreeeport ends

John
brrreeeport

8:47 pm  

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